Citrine Wagtail

While waiting for Blue throated to show out. This fella flew in to let me passed time.
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erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

Hm!!!!I checked bird book, I agreed with you
this is probably a Taivana. But still not 100% taivana.
Let see if there is other C Fu can help.

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

I go to find few day ago for this bird at that place but not manage to find it reason there are few hundred of Yellow Wagtail there... can't really one by one check

nelson khor wrote:

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

I go to find few day ago for this bird at that place but not manage to find it reason there are few hundred of Yellow Wagtail there... can't really one by one check

hundred of yellow wagtail!! You better ask Tou to be there to count and identify both species.

BENCYF wrote:

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

Hm!!!!I checked bird book, I agreed with you
this is probably a Taivana. But still not 100% taivana.
Let see if there is other C Fu can help.

har??? You not sure with ID one ar.......

1. Face, the Citrine have a specific face pattern, as mentioned
2. Vent color, Citrine had a fully white vent at all time, but this bird had yellow at the base of the vent
3 Yellow Wagtail upperparts more olive, but not clearly showed in your photo

Here is sample of Citrine...

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jytou wrote:

BENCYF wrote:

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

Hm!!!!I checked bird book, I agreed with you
this is probably a Taivana. But still not 100% taivana.
Let see if there is other C Fu can help.

har??? You not sure with ID one ar.......

1. Face, the Citrine have a specific face pattern, as mentioned
2. Vent color, Citrine had a fully white vent at all time, but this bird had yellow at the base of the vent
3 Yellow Wagtail upperparts more olive, but not clearly showed in your photo

Tou, I think I have another sub species of Citrine here after referring to Mr No Good picture.
Let me get more shots if there is a chance to meet them.

BENCYF wrote:

jytou wrote:

BENCYF wrote:

jytou wrote:erm.... your Citrine did not show the fully extended pale stripe behind the ears, but the shape did show up, not sure if this is a variation or something? The Citrine is recently recorded in Malaysia for this first time this month, so guess its time to start getting familiar with it now perhaps??

I could had probably identify this as "taivana" Yellow Wagtail if I saw it here in the wild, must keep my eyes open then....... The "taivana" Yellow Wagtail is also quite uncommon and rare in Malaysia....

Hm!!!!I checked bird book, I agreed with you
this is probably a Taivana. But still not 100% taivana.
Let see if there is other C Fu can help.

har??? You not sure with ID one ar.......

1. Face, the Citrine have a specific face pattern, as mentioned
2. Vent color, Citrine had a fully white vent at all time, but this bird had yellow at the base of the vent
3 Yellow Wagtail upperparts more olive, but not clearly showed in your photo

Tou, I think I have another sub species of Citrine here after referring to Mr No Good picture.
Let me get more shots if there is a chance to meet them.

Aiyoh..... No Good punya is breeding male la..... urs most likely moulting to wintering plumage but still midway, not sure about the differences between subspecies, but probably 2 of them could arrive in HK and SEA area.....

hi BEN, yours is more likely "taivana" Yellow Wagtail or sometimes suggested to be split as Green-headed Wagtail.

Reasons are there is a lack of thin white/pale line behind the ear separating the face and body patterns. Also the ear coverts are with olive tinge that should not be in the Citrine. I think more like points to a "taivana" Yellow than Citrine.

Very nice

jytou wrote:hi BEN, yours is more likely "taivana" Yellow Wagtail or sometimes suggested to be split as Green-headed Wagtail.

Reasons are there is a lack of thin white/pale line behind the ear separating the face and body patterns. Also the ear coverts are with olive tinge that should not be in the Citrine. I think more like points to a "taivana" Yellow than Citrine.

Yes, totally agreed with you now.

Great capture Ben, and very close, but the feather detail seems a little lacking, maybe this is due to the fine texture?